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Curar Partida · Feb 03, 2007, 06:30 PM // 18:30

Okay me and friends have been trying to figure this out. There are many many UW builds, half being solo builds. 90% of the builds are so simple a chimp could use them (not litterally).

The other day I saw Ectos @ 12k at trader. So why the huge jump in price?
I understand the bringing of Nightfall and the time where ectos would be up. But, it has been up for far too long. Too many ectos on the market, and they're easier to get than ever.

Moving to Euro servers, you could easily make 250 ectos in a matter of days. So im still "confuzzled" about the prices. Are there still that many people who can't solo UW but still have the money to buy ectos?

Hockster · Feb 03, 2007, 06:34 PM // 18:34

250 ecto in days? Maybe, but very doubtful, if you do nothing buy farm 24/7. The ecto drop rate appears to be even lower than ever, most builds are not bot friendly therefore less farmers flooding the market, ebay is removing virtual item listings so those that partake are now forced to buy in game. All the little things gradually add up to higher prices.

Curar Partida · Feb 03, 2007, 06:38 PM // 18:38

Ya but i spent 5 days farming UW in Euro servers. Half way thru 5th day i got my 250th ecto. Was no problem at all. All though iw as at the point of boredom where i staired virtually THROUGH the monitor.

Navaros · Feb 03, 2007, 06:43 PM // 18:43

I started solo farming the UW about a month ago and I was shocked to realize that getting mass amounts of Ectos is not so rosy of a task as it used to seem when I'd never done it. Like the OP's statement of getting 250 ectos in a few days - that wouldn't really happen and especially not "easily". Managing aggro of Aatxes and coldfires (and poking them when they get stuck, which requires aggroing them) is not "hard" persay for a good player, but it does take a lot of fortitude and a level of skill that the average player is not anywhere near.

In my view the most recent spike up to 12k is due to eBAY delisting Ectos.

Antheus · Feb 03, 2007, 07:37 PM // 19:37

Hard-core farmers have two accounts anyway, one on each server. Before Factions came out I had two accounts for this very purpose, but later didn't bother to upgrade one of them, farming just got way too boring.

There's also another aspect to this. Buying ectos from players on the server that has favor and selling them on other can net you around 10-20% return, so if you put in a nice lump of cash, you can make steady income just by pushing ectos between euro and US servers.

As for 250 in 5 days? Does this mean 5 x 24 hours, 5 x 8 hours, or how many hours in UW exactly?

Koning · Feb 03, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

I think it's pretty much impossible to get 250 ecto's in 5 days. This means 50 ecto each day. Given that the average droprate of ecto is 2 ecto's in 3 runs means you gotta do 75 runs each day. The fastest way is ele/mesmer, and it takes about 10-12 min a run, lets say 15 min with selling your white junk and getting in UW again. thats 75*15 = 1125 min of farming, which is 18.75 hour. Given that drops tend to be lower after that many runs, and that you can have some luck in other runs, I don't pay attention to this. So A.) You have absolutly no life and need almost no sleep Or B.) You have some cheats where you get 10 ecto's each run.

About this rising price, it's probably because the bots that can't farm anymore and the average GW player is too stupid to make it to the smites anyway, especially with the new changes on AV and rend enchants. And ofcourse America doesn't have favor very much...

Xenex Xclame · Feb 03, 2007, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Sorry everything you just said is completely wrong.

Let me just point all the wrong points in the second part of your post.

Why cant bots farm anymore?The AI update which might be one of the reason for this supposed change, happened a while ago , people that use bots, have adapted long ago.

The changes to the skills happened for 3 days ago 2 weeks ago, and they were changed back after the weekend and this weekend doesn't even count.

The prices were high before any changes to skills were made .

Bryant Again · Feb 03, 2007, 08:39 PM // 20:39

How come ecto's jump in price but not Obsidian Shards?

brokenmonkey · Feb 03, 2007, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Ectos are bought more than Shards, because ecto is a currency in Guild Wars.

People buy ecto because you can only hold 100k, but ecto can stack and they range from 7-10 (even 12) k each. So people say Ill buy that or sell this for 100k + How ever many ecto. When ecto are at 10k or so, 100k +5 ecto is 150k, thats how people buy and sell High end items.

This is a reply to Bryant Again.

Phaern Majes · Feb 03, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14

Last I checked shards were 3.5k or so, a few weeks ago they were under 3k. They may not rise in price as fast but they do generally go up when ecto does.

Koning · Feb 03, 2007, 10:35 PM // 22:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame

Sorry everything you just said is completely wrong.

Xenes Xclame, If you mean my post...

Ecto's gone up for some long time now, since the AI update. That means, since bots stopped farming them, less of these things were in the market so price rose, in this case slowly. (i think you misunderstood me , bots are not the ONLY reason, but they rose in first place!)

secondly, a weekend like this and the first test weekend CAN let the ecto's rise like this. People stockpile ecto's because everyone can foresee its getting harder for normal people to farm UW (rend enchant etc) so price is rising because of this higher demand. If alot of ppl do this (which is very likely this weekend) the price will go up like we see now...

daraaksii · Feb 03, 2007, 10:56 PM // 22:56

Ecto's price is high becouse nobody selling them to the trader maybe. And yeah. 250 ectos in 5 days is more than impossible.

reetkever · Feb 04, 2007, 01:13 AM // 01:13

`Hmmm I think it's more reasons that causes ecto prices to rise.

First ecto prices were 6K each at trader, then Nightfall came out.

People make their dervish and/or paragon and they want to forge FoW armor for these classes. There are even some people who want a changable FoW armor (with insignia's), so they buy the new set for old characters.

Also, mass farming got practically killed, so alot of farmers either play the game or quit. Result is less UW soloing, so less ectos being produced. As a result of this, ecto's increased in price and people sell less to trader. This result also causes ecto prices to go up even more.

This weekend, more solo builds got nerfed, and builds became way slower so the ecto prices go up. If nobody can do UW, ecto prices will rocket to the sky...

Curar Partida · Feb 04, 2007, 06:30 AM // 06:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antheus

There's also another aspect to this. Buying ectos from players on the server that has favor and selling them on other can net you around 10-20% return, so if you put in a nice lump of cash, you can make steady income just by pushing ectos between euro and US servers.

There is no difference in price on different servers. So what u say is wrong. They buy sell at same price from trader and players on Europe and American.

Quote:

Originally Posted by daraaksii

Ecto's price is high becouse nobody selling them to the trader maybe. And yeah. 250 ectos in 5 days is more than impossible.

So your telling me its impossible to get 50 ectos in 1 day? You must not play in UW much.

Well i farm UW For every second that Europe has favor, then when america takes it, i simply hop on my american account. And, ya, i dont have a life so i can spsend 16-18 hours a day playing guild wars. I dont even have to sleep if i dont want. I'm just weird. Lol. And yes, seeing my runs usually last at max 30 minutes, ectos are easily farmed.

cachudo · Feb 04, 2007, 08:56 AM // 08:56

That's sad and pathetic Curar Partida, wasting your life away playing guild wars all day long. When I think of you, I think of the old, fat, bald guy in the episode of South Park where the little kids fight to save World of Warcraft.

Koning · Feb 04, 2007, 09:41 AM // 09:41

haha lol indeed, having no life at all is the only explanation of getting 50 ecto each day

NeHoMaR · Feb 04, 2007, 04:07 PM // 16:07

My record is 3 ectos in 1 year. Never farmed UW.... maybe ... I will start soon, if I can leave PvP a moment.

Gun Pierson · Feb 04, 2007, 04:37 PM // 16:37

250 ectos in a few days is greatly overrated. If you would say 120 ectos in a week, then I would believe you, maybe.

In between chapters prices of ecto seem to increase till a new chapter comes out and everybody wants to get the new armors. Once the masses got it, ecto starts to increase again as they want fow armor for a new class for example. This is only one factor that effects the ecto market.

In the early days before the new ai and even before they added nightmares and the limit of aggro, it was possible to farm 250 ectos in no time. But those days are long gone.

11-12k is not a big deal for an ecto, I remember they were 18-19k once.

Carboplatin · Feb 04, 2007, 04:51 PM // 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

In the early days before the new ai and even before they added nightmares and the limit of aggro, it was possible to farm 250 ectos in no time. But those days are long gone.
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i miss those days and i don't care if you farm uw 24/7, you will not net 250 ectos in 5 days.

Roshi_ikkyu · Feb 04, 2007, 06:34 PM // 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curar Partida

....Well i farm UW For every second that Europe has favor, then when america takes it, i simply hop on my american account. And, ya, i dont have a life so i can spsend 16-18 hours a day playing guild wars. I dont even have to sleep if i dont want. I'm just weird. Lol. And yes, seeing my runs usually last at max 30 minutes, ectos are easily farmed.

So you have atleast two accounts, farm ecto in UW for atleast 16-18 hrs a day. By now no doubt have an inventory full of 250 stacks of ecto, netting you around 22'500 ectos (across the accounts inventory spaces) and another smaller stack of 500 in storage material vault.
UNLESS you have all character slots acting as mules to carry your ecto in which case times the numbers by 4 or even 5......
And if your even half sitting here trying to work out the maths, you'll realise you would be the stupidest farmer in history to start posting on a forum about a price hike that at even the lowest levels will net you... hmmm lets see 22'500 x 8'000 (current merch offered price where going cost here people not retail.) 180'000'000.

So it leaves the question why?
Ego, boasting that you can farm 250 ecto in 5 days.
Just general good olde fashion selfesteem building, acting like your somebody.
A loaded thread, possible flame bait.

Personally I smell BS, why complain when your perhaps the richest person in GW. And you post on a forum to "define" a increase in sale price that will surely only make you richer!
my favourite kind of idio-logic